Saturday, December 22, 2012

A Pro Wind View of Article X - A Guest Post

I opened up my email this AM to find this letter.  The sender asked if I would post if in fairness.  There was also a challenge in the email saying I had said many months back that I would post any pro wind view that wasn't just a wild pointless attack or incomherent.  They challenged me by saying  "now will you be fair and have the balls to post this"

I could not identify the sender, only that it appears to have come from around the CV area. Maybe it is from BP or Trieste. 

I have obvious disagreements with this person but I did find this letter interesting.  So after mulling it over today I decided to post it.

Here it is below for your enjoyment.



I am a proud supporter of BP and their Public Information Outreach efforts for their Cape Vincent Wind Farm that will bring exciting opportunities for Cape Vincent. I also credit New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo for his vision of a fair and balanced siting process like Article 10.   Article 10 carefully balances community concerns, with the need to address global warming, and also bring us energy independence from foreign oil and bring new American jobs and help save family farms.

But I am amused by the continued fringe voices of Art Pundt and his local soldier David Lamora who want to deny BP and the Article process in our community, and defend home rule.  They are out of touch, because I think the community and especially our Board and their supporters have moved on to a wiser path and I applaud the Town Board for not letting Pundt  and Lamora sway their thinking away from a fair balanced process, or denying BP into our community with a turbine ban. It is clear they do not agree with Lamora and Pundt.   Even the blogs have moved on and recognized Pundt and Lamora as the radical fringe for trying to ban BP turbines and deny the Board to participate in Article 10 and represent all of us. This Board has chosen a far more reasonable path for a community the Zogby poll says is more in favor of wind than not

That got me thinking.  Whose side am I actually on? We are not as far apart as some would believe and we should stop this deny, deny, deny, talk that separates us.

I did not vote for our current board nor do I support their anti - wind leanings and that of their supporters.  I have followed this Cape Vincent wind issue very closely and have been a strong advocate for BP and wind but I have not been particularly vocal.  

 But I was struck by something recently in a Cape Vincent town letter to the NY Public Service Commission (PSC) as part of the Article 10 process that made me step back from the shrill voices on both sides and try to take an unbiased look at what the Town Board and their supporters are actually doing.  I tried to cut through the rhetoric and instead look at their actions.  I am pleased that they are now fully engaged in the Article 10 process leaving fringe voices behind.

What struck me in the Town’s letter and letters from their supporters was an apparent willingness to have a detailed  dialogue with BP and the PSC to reach a better solution for all.  I was particularly struck by the Town’s expressed willingness in one  letter to support renewable energy on a large scale.  They indicated to the PSC and BP that they are not opposed to a large commercial renewable project for Cape Vincent, and felt BP could be the proper agent to bring us that project. One would have to surmise that this would also include a willingness to discuss local tax incentives to bring such a project to fruition. That too was implied in the letter.   They preferred solar, however, I would far prefer wind as a better solution. This is very positive!

But at least we are taking large steps toward each other rather than following the divisive voices of Art Pundt and David Lamora that would completely deny  BP into our community or the fair Article 10 process where our Board clearly recognizes they can better represent all sides in the community and possibly reach a potential compromise that is fair and balanced, despite having to put aside home rule on this critical issue.
 If the Board supports Gov. Cuomo’s and our direction  for  clean renewable energy, as they outlined in their letter, and in fact their comprehensive plan and zoning support as well, then we are more than half way there to an agreement and all we need to do is hammer out some details via the help of an unbiased knowledgeable Article 10 process taking a fair look at our zoning. A fair approach for BP as well.

I am also struck by the Boards acceptance of the PSC letter on potential conflicts at the PSC, and that they agree they now have assurances that the system is untainted and fair. This sets the stage from which we can now move ahead and trust the process for a fair decision for the entire Cape Vincent community.  I too had concerns and was hoping this potential conflict would not mar the process or turn the Board away from it. I applaud the PSC for their detailed response and I applaud the Town for recognizing it as fair and reasonable and not buying into the Pundt, Lamora hysteria that the Albany system is rigged.

 Former Cape Vincent Town Councilman Mickey Orvis was wise when he said we should give this problem to the State to decide and let the community heal. It appears in the end our board is now agreeing with Mr. Orvis by wisely ignoring Pundt and Lamora’s marginal voices to deny BP and Article 10 and committing to seeing that the Article 10 process works fairly  and brings us a final solution , and by participating are agreeing to that final solution as fair.  I now feel despite my differences with them and their supporters that they are coming around to recognizing by participating in the Article 10 that they have an obligation to represent me and are in fact doing so in a fair way with assistance they recognize and accept from the State. 

 And fortunately as I stepped back to examine it, it appears by the appropriate direction of our Boards we are almost to a solution ourselves, so let’s move forward and not let the fringe voices misdirect us from a compromise or a reasonable solution that you appear to support in the balanced Article 10 process.  This is where the Board and their supporters have moved on by participation in Article 10, and have wisely left the fringe voices behind to ensure fair representation of the whole community, and even me as a strong wind advocate. I hope my pro wind friends come to recognize we may have reasonable representation on the Town Board and should foster this relationship since they are finally moving on and leaving the fringe voices behind.  The Board’s continued support of the Article 10 process is critical to us now.

So despite my strong disagreements with this board, I at least strongly credit your reasonableness and willingness to recognize a renewable solution and participate and represent us all in a fair unbiased Article 10 process where even you recognize we can benefit from the State’s wise counsel by putting home rule aside.

 Sometimes like yourselves it is wise to recognize that individual rights should be trumped for the greater good.  Thank you!




9 comments:

  1. There are numerous observations one could make about this letter, I will offer two short ones for now.

    Firstly, the author begins his comments with the statement that he is a proud supporter of BP and their outreach efforts.I seriously doubt that- usually if someone is "proud" of something they don't hide behind anonymity. He makes repeated references to Mr. Pundt and myself by name yet is to embarrassed to claim authorship of his own words. I wouldn't call that pride, I would call it chicken shit.

    Secondly, it seems to me that if the positions Art and I have promoted are so on the "fringe" why is this author so concerned about their possible impact on the people and process at issue?

    It is obvious this person recognizes the value of ART. X and its acceptance,and participation in by the citizenry, and local governments, as the only means by which industrial wind power(which is rapidly losing favor as a solution to our energy needs) can be developed in many communities.

    From the fringe and proud of it, David LaMora 783-8744

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  2. why would you choose now to all of a sudden become vocal? Is it possible you are one of the recipients of BP's charitable contributions (otherwise known as bribes) ?

    Or is LaMora and Pundt's reasoning sudenly seem like more of a threat to your lease agreement and possible free taxpayer revenue in your pocket?

    Art. X is a scam as large as wind power itself. We could use a few more "fringe voices" to speak up.

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  3. Some of us thought at one time Pundt had a few good ideas, but he turned into extremeist nut case that has turned on the community and Mr Hirschey and the town board with all this ban BP and anti article ten talk and pro home rule talk.

    Thank heavens our board doesn't listen to Punt and is trying very hard to be reasonable within the state system and we will prevail with our law and article 10 on our side. We have the experts and the best wind law in the state, and the psc is listening to our letters. They assurred us the system is fair desite Pundt and Lamoras screaming to the contrary.

    This idea that we should ban BP turbines and can defend our law with home rule is just crazy talk and our board has seen through it.

    Pundt and his radical attitude to ban BP and fight art 10 instead of a good wind law should stay out Az in the wild west where he belongs. Some of us are more civilized and can work wihin the state laws. This isn't the radical 1960's anymore

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  4. The person in the post said the town asked BP in a letter put up a solar project,and talk about taxing PILOTS. Where is that letter? I have never seen it. Our town doesn't want BP here and they would never give them a PILOT for anything. Remember that Oct meeting,they told BP to get the hell out of town!

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  5. 3:30

    Look at this link and letter from the town to the PSC commenting on BP's PIP.

    http://documents.dps.ny.gov/public/Common/ViewDoc.aspx?DocRefId={006FF833-27AB-477C-982B-5E453559BF01}

    Look at items 5 and 8 and you will see where the town suggests BP bring us a solar alternative and in 8 suggest a sit down with BP for all taxing jurisdictions to talk about PILOTS.

    And in their letter the suggest they want a dialogue with BP.

    1.What the hell is the dialogue with BP for? We have our zoning and the towns has said repeatedly they will defend it (within Art X) and BP intends to violate it...so what's the dialogue about?

    2. I have been told over and over this town board would never give BP a PILOT. So why do they want to sit down and talk to BP about a PILOT? They could pass a resolution right now to deny a PILOT for BP.

    3. Why do we want BP to bring us a solar project of anything else. The US justice Dept charged them as criminals, felons, and liars in the the BP Gulf disaster.

    The town just continually wants to "play nice with these thugs and a rigged system in Albany. I don't get it!!!

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  6. Think about this for a minute. Mr. Pundt may be the author of the letter he claims is from a pro-wind contributor. It could be just another attempt by Mr. Pundt to slam the board for trying to work within the system.
    He is also more than likely the author of most of the rebuttal posts responding to the mystery guest letter.
    If you look at the articles on Pundt’s blog, they have zero posts, except from Lamora. Pundt has begged and pleaded with people to post on his blog, but in the end, all we probably have here is a letter written by Pundt disguised as a pro wind source, and rebuttals also probably written by Pundt. He has had conversations with himself on the other blogs in the past, and he posts on the WDT under numerous names to drive his radical anti-town-board message. Even though he constantly slams people for posting as anonymous, he does the same thing on WDT and the other local blogs.
    He is no longer a voice we need to listen to.

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  7. 8:04

    Is the post real?...are you real? or is Pundt real? So by your own logic 8:04 the question becomes is this comment really from you or is it a phony from Pundt???? So the mystery is are you real or are you fake! Interesting dilemma you have? Maybe this comment is not real either. Maybe this blog isn't real.




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  8. Thanks 9:32 you answered it better that I could!

    Interesting that 8:04 came on to comment at all...or wait maybe it is me??? And interesting that 8:04 is implying I am a fringe voice not to be listened too just like the post is saying about me and Dave. I'm glad 8:04 is out there watching and listening...or is it me??? aaahhhhh!!!!!


    Looks like 8:04 wants to work inside the system just like the pro wind side wants the board to stay within the system because they know they will wind that way with the way the system s stacked in Albany.

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  9. The post is an interesting question. Who benefits more by the town staying in the Art 10 system?

    If the sytem is unfairly biased as the board seems to recognize in their letters then it seems the Voter For Wind side would clean up?

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