Monday, August 13, 2012

Fascinating Thinking!!!!



One of the things that absolutely has fascinated  me in the wind battle  in Cape Vincent is how people come to decisions, and the logic they use.  It’s fascinating to watch people think and sometimes evolve.  If you are interested in this type of thing you might find the book “How We Decide” by Jonah Leher interesting.
For example the town board decision to threaten Dave LaMora with arrest over a three minute speaking time and to accelerate an easily diffused situation into a crisis. 
Or a point in time when several of our current board members would have let previous wind conflicted officials on the old board vote despite their conflicts, as long as our new board members ,then in WPEG, could have gotten the protective setback wind law they wanted…which the old board would not have voted for anyhow!!!  That one was real baffling and yet interesting.  I am going to let a bunch of conflicted people illegally vote on my wind law, when  in fact they won’t ever vote for it anyhow.
Real clever!!!
Or WPEG wanting to take a position of compromise with setbacks on industrial wind siting. Why did they feel they could take a position of compromise when in fact they had absolutely NOTHING to use to force a compromise. They had NO power to compromise even though they somehow thought they did.   Funny thing is, here we are today with a WPEG super majority town board and they are still trying to compromise and appease against Article X and they still don’t have power within that system to force any compromise since A-10 can simply preempt our wind zoning laws.  But they insist on appeasing the very system that has already taken their home rule rights away.
But staying on the decision making theme of this post, I saw this comment on the JLL blog about the CV Planning Board terminating the BP permit application.   It was another one that fascinated me.
“Anonymous said...
This is no time to risk a constitutional challenge of the Article X legislation. Also no time to risk accepting some of the deals that were made before by a very bad bunch of characters.
Mr. Macsherry!
Terminate that Bp application!
Then we will have a "first down" party and fight like hell to keep a New York State siting board out of Cape Vincent, NY.
 If we stay with the sports analogy,  there is not much to celebrate on a first down, especially if it’s the first one in a long game or the other side has already beaten the pants off you and it’s the last 30 seconds of the game!
But in the context of the CV wind game, just exactly  what the hell are we celebrating  even if the BP permit is terminated?   Where is the victory?  It is a pointless celebration and demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of the game.  Whether  the BP permit is terminated or not  is functionally irrelevant if they can just come back through Article X and ram even more wind turbines down our throat with  no need whatsoever for the CV Planning Board permit.  This would be an absolutely classic case of the old saying of shutting the barn door long after the horses are gone!!!  Same goes for our zoning law that attempts to appease Article X by being “reasonable”, even though we have no clue what “reasonable” means.  Celebrating the termination of the BP permit is pointless if BP has lobbied the State into legislation that already strips our home rule rights away. Get it????  THEY DON’T NEED OUR DAMN PERMIT!!!!
And after we have this pointless celebration over absolutely nothing… I would LOVE to hear how this commenter intends to fight like hell to keep Article X out of CV, when in fact our town board has already willingly appeased and enabled and will cooperate with the Article X siting process and give it further power and legitimacy.   I would like to see the fascinating reasoning on that one!!!!!
Like I said all these lines of thinking and logic are fascinating!  And they just keep coming.



2 comments:

  1. It was not an analogy to sports.

    The ultimate celebration for wind is the "First up party" when the first turbine gets built. It is a big deal.

    The "first down" refers to the stopping of turbines.

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  2. Ok my apologies for misinterpreting that part of your comment. Try to make it clearer next time since 1st down is a very common football reference...not that I am a big football fan or expert. How about we have a "never up party!!!"

    On you other comments I still strongly disagree. This IS the time to have a constitutional challenge and I will refer you to one of my more recent posts above as to CELF strategy.

    And I would also still like to hear just exactly how we are going to fight like hell agaonst A-10. If you town board is not on board to resist it, and in fact has already tried to appease the process, how exactly is that supposed to work and where is that fight going to come from. If your board accepts the A-10 process then your "fight" is completely toasted. Many people don't understand that to have an effective battle against A-10 you you have to have the legilsative and political power and bully pulpit of your town board behind it.

    How about you ask Urban Hirschey why he won't do that publicly, and then tell us what his answer is.

    If you really want to fight A-10 and show your commitment how about you start right here on this blog and put your name behind a commnet that says we should fight it and you think our town board should support that fight. Otherwise with all due respect all you're doing is blowing smoke.

    If we are going to have to give away our rights let's not do it by surrending and appeasing the process that is trying to take them away.

    And why not at least pass a resolution opposing Article X. At least show some backbone instead of giving away our community trying to define "reasonable" when we aren't even invited to the party where reasonable is actually defined.

    Cuomo doesn't care about your definition of resoanable and he could careless about the supposed health, safety and welfare of the new CV zoning as zoning chair Bob Brown does. All he cares about is if that somehow impacts his votes. You better start getting a grip on that concept and soon!!!

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