Thursday, May 17, 2012

HELP!!!_ I'm Lost And In The Wrong Location!!!!

This comment came into the blog on the post I did about seeing the Wolfe Is. wind turbines all the way from Wescott Beach.  Sometimes this is like shooting fish in a barrel !  I decided to repond as a post.

One more "expert"!!!

"You are an Arizona blog making like a NNY expert. And, it shows, Wrong information. Wrong location. And you are in search and rescue.?

You missed the mark by nearly five miles.

It is Wescott Beach not Wescott’s

Besides, at Wescott beach, you can’t even see Wolfe Island because Pt. Peninsula blocks the view."

Well sport you either better go back to elementary school and brush up on your NNY geography, or you better get out more.  The photo is taken EXACTLY where I said it was taken. 

Once again it is from the OVERLOOK at WESCOTT Beach State Park.  Wescott Beach Park is on BOTH sides of NY Rt. 3. You take the road to the east on the opposite side of the Wescott main entrance, then turn on a road going south and up hill.  It comes to an overlook.  From here at approx. elevation of 435 ft. above sea level and about 192 ft. above the Lake level you can look OVER Pt. Peninsula and clearly see the Wolfe turbines. It is a spectacular view of Eastern Lake Ontario. The same Lake we shouldn’t screw up with more industrial wind turbines.

Now I know this will be a bit of technical navigation information and over your head but here are the latitude and longitude coordinates in degrees, minutes, seconds where I took the picture, you can put it in Google Earth and go to this exact location, and see it for yourself .  Or plug this into your car or hand held GPS and take a ride and go learn something.  Make sure you set the map datum correctly in your GPS. Google Earth even has a sunset photo from the same location.  So my good NNY geography expert, it is YOU who are WRONG by at least 5 miles!!!!

(Datum WGS84)
N 043* – 53’ - 27.52”
W 076* - 07’ – 14.67”

Or you can use Universal Transverse Mercator coordinates in Datum WGS84, if you are into UTM, but Google won’t fly you there with these coordinates.

18T  0409981E
        4860375N

In the end I guess the guy from AZ does know more about NNY that you.

Here is another picture from the same location, but not looking at the Wolfe turbines.



Now about the crack about me being in Search and Rescue. Are you really sure you want to get into a navigation debate??? YOU are the exact type of person we search for all the time who THINKS he is an expert and THINKS he knows where he is then when it gets dark and cold and reality and panic sinks in then  we get called and have to work out that person’s navigational screw ups so we can find them and save their rear end!  That’s assuming the screw up hasn’t cost them their life!  Usually they have several other innocent people with him who thought they were the expert, and now need to  be rescued too because they followed the WRONG person to the WRONG location.










Our team members have to take long detailed courses on wilderness navigation and  then have to prove themselves in real wilderness field conditions like they will face in SAR. 

And BTW I happen to teach wilderness navigation for our SAR unit. I designed the GPS, map and compass, and survival navigation courses.  I have been asked to teach those courses for other SAR teams all over  AZ, National Park Service law enforcement and backcountry rangers, ski patrol, fire depts. sheriff’s deputies, helo pilots, police, SWAT teams, and for search management courses taught by Grand Canyon National Park. 

WHY?  So they can learn how to find and rescue geography EXPERTS just like YOU who end up 5 miles from where they think they are!!!!


                              National Park Rangers taking our SAR wilderness navigation courses.




1 comment:

  1. Art,
    The "expert" is better known in these parts as s@$t-for-brains. At lease he looks at your gorgeous pictures...

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