Hypocrisy

Smokey the Bear Image Removed  See post above. 

Even the US Forest Service was not sure about using the SmokeyLogo when I called them here in Flagstaff.  They are actually too busy worrying about actual forest fires.  

I take  lot of heat over my approach. Apparently this never bothered anybody when I was going after our previous conflicted govt. But has anybody else been rough in their approach?   How about the other blogs especially prior to the election from supporters of the Republican candidates?  Nobody seems to have a problem with their approach and they got pretty nasty in a defense of the Republican candidates.  Pandora's blog went after the  Masons repeatedly with nasty posts and her commenters jumped right in after her lead.  Here is a typical attack comment from the blogs

Anonymous said...

My apologies to those currently living in Mississippi, I agree they progressed. To bad uneducated dipshit bigot's like Paul haven't.Dipshit bigot???   Wiley once said that he blocked me on his blog for “attacking” people.  Actually my comments were based more questions and facts.  But dipshit bigot!!!

Wiley had NO problem letting this nasty personal attack stay on his blog to support HIS agenda.  Never saw his Republican buddies object to it either, nor did anyone from our “responsible” town board come on the blog and say they objected to this.   Now I have heard Mr. Hirschey and his supporters and other say we need to move on now and “heal” the town.  Do you think this is how you “heal” a community?  Hey… I will be the first to disagree with Paul Mason and his logic…does he really deserve to be called a dipshit bigot in a public forum that is basically the informational arm of the new Republican govt. My first approach to Paul was to ask him if we could sit down so I could try to understand his views on wind power, and we did that for 3 hours at his house.  I never called him a dipshit bigot. 

And this which is VERY interesting from the person who uses the pseudonym “Lone Ranger” and has been on both blogs. The “ Lone Ranger’s”  comments on Roger Alexander and his turbine and former PB chair Edsall uses the words big fat idiot, scumbag, several times..

But here is the thing.  NO ONE on the anti wind side ever complained about my approach much when I was going after pro wind people and our previous conflicted officers  But as soon as I started asking questions (not attacking) of the Hirschey and the Republican candidates, all based on facts and research… then I swiftly became the enemy of the agenda.  I have never called Mr. Hirschey, the board or his supporters  scumbags, manure, big fat idiots, perverts  etc etc   Below is an example of my questioning on JLL of Mr. Hirschey and the Republican candidates…it is a discussion not an attack.

Art Pundt said...

Clif, John, and Urban

You have asked for feedback on your platform. I have no problem with # 1, 3,or 4, I think those are solid and take the Town in the right direction. But I do have significant reservations on # 2, and wind IS the biggest issue facing the electorate and the Town, and just about everything else hinges on that issue. Where is the attack here…there  is NONE, it is factual based questioning.

This all comes before the 2011 Cape Vincent  elections.  Pandora’s and JLL and their supporters at this time were doing these to attacks to discredit the people running against or simply questioning their candidates. 

People accuse me of attacking Mr. Hirschey and others…if they are going to criticize somebody else for a rough approach, that would imply  they and the Republican candidates always take the more “respectable high road”.  Cliff, Schneider, Byrne, and Hirschey read these blogs and have even posted on them at times. Their campaign unified platform was posted  on the blogs   So were they giving their endorsement to the nasty attacks from these blogs and their supporters, as they attacked many times directly on behalf of the Republican candidates?

I guess our new board had no problem with the blog’s  nasty attacks or that of their supporters. Attacks are attacks…if they are not appropriate as an approach then say so to ALL people, not just me. Why didn’t ask that  ALL  nasty attacks stop and ask to tone down the attacks on the opposition too?  You didn’t  see the blogs saying that, nor did you see ANY Republican candidate say that.  And those blogs are HUGE supporters of the Rep, candidates and now our new board.

Why????…well don’t be fooled.   Because in the end the candidates and their supporters apparently didn’t give damn  about the attacks as long as it was to their benefit.    That is until I started asking some measured researched and factual questions (not attacks) of the Republican candidates.  Those are the most dangerous type of questions and must be quickly marginalized. even going so far, just like the other day…saying I am trying to help people like Harold Wiley, and the pro wind side.  Now that is not just an attack…that is an absurd outright lying smear tactic.  When they attack they can’t even stick to the truth…they have to lie!!!  Now I don’t see any of our new Republican board members, or their supporters saying ANYTHING about that.  Do they tolerate lies from their supporters in their defense???

You see ladies and gentlemen . That is what you call …

HYPOCRISY!!!!   In fact, remember what the “Lone Ranger” says:

“Damn, I don't think anything is more a burr under my saddle than hypocrisy!”

Me too “Lone Ranger”!!!  Maybe you ought to talk to some of your posse who ride with you!

And I hope my readers are intelligent enough to see through it.  Like yesterday’s post on the Intschert letter and meeting.  That hit a real raw nerve with somebody and the attacks started…I wonder who????  I didn’t attack anybody, I was just telling of an experience I had  in the CV wind battle.  That usually happens when somebody is afraid of something and that somebody might know something that exposes too much truth like additional stuff I know about the Intschert meeting I didn’t reveal. What really fries these attackers is that some of them KNOW I KNOW stuff from an inside view that does not that would  not match their agenda message that they want the CV public to swallow whole…that is the REAL problem here.

 The  closer to the truth the more intense the attacks must be. That is how this game works.  So watch closely when the commenters are going ballistic…that is usually the key to important information.  And you won’t see many names on the attacks for a couple reasons.  1.) that would take backbone. 2.) and what if an attacker is actually a town officer or somebody very close who supports them?  The anonymous mode provides cover. Most of my posts are like puzzle pieces…

...keep reading, use your intellect and not your emotions, and put the pieces together so you will get a better understanding of what is happening NOW!  And the history is CRITICAL to what is going in right now.

Watch closely…More to come.

Many of the setback people are projecting how we have to form a setback zoning law because of a legal challenge. So do we have any actual insight as to how the court might decide on such an issue?  Yes we actually do and we will explore that in a new post coming soon.