Friday, December 19, 2014

Cape Vincent Councilwoman Oswald Is On The Money On Zoning Reappointments - But There Is A Lot More To This Story!


I reviewed the video of last Thursday’s Cape Vincent Town Board meeting. Something very interesting came up in the meeting discussions.

The issue of the reappointment of CV Zoning Board of Appeals chairman Dennis Faulknham was discussed, as well as the reappointment of Planning Board member Paul Docteur, and PB alternate Karen Bourcy. 
To her credit CV Councilwoman Michelle  Oswald questioned the reappointment process indicating these positions should not be renewed simply because a person already holds  the position, but should be advertised to the whole community and then each candidate, including the ones up for reappointment should be interviewed, then voted upon.
I agree.
However, there is a more insidious side hidden in  this than apparently Ms. Oswald really wanted to get into.
There was a great deal of discussion on this point, and if you have been paying attention the past couple years to CV politics surrounding the new zoning law and the zoning officials who are supposed to uphold it, there is a lot more here than meets the eye...or was discussed… or this board is probably unwilling or too embarrassed to admit.  And like many things I report on, it is all in the record to be reviewed, and should be very carefully reviewed before these appointments are given, as well as other future zoning appointments that may be given away because you have been a ‘good boy”!
I’m sure some people on the Hirschey board (the Hirschey loyalists) hoped these appointments would just slide through with little question.  Apparently Ms. Oswald was not willing to let this just slide and had some very pertinent points to discuss that go right to the heart of “open govt”. and good ole boy politics.
For the sake of this discussion let me state I have no particular issue with Mr. Paul Docteur of the PB, other than two summers ago during the solar zoning fiasco I think he failed to grasp the depth of the problem evolving before him on his board and how his board failed in its responsibility as did Faulkinham and most of his ZBA except for ZBA member Hester Chase who Councilwoman Oswald brought up as a very pertinent point.  More pertinent than some may realize.
There was an assumption or false premise voiced by Oswald and others, however, when she raised her concerns. 
That was that the people in the current positions to be reappointed where competent or were doing a good job and that was not the question. 
I disagree, and the record shows why, but I’m sure she did this to smooth over what she would really have liked to say in more depth.
I am not going to put words in Ms. Oswald’s mouth. But there is much more to the story in my opinion and it hinges on the treatment of ZBA member Hester Chase.  And Oswald was very smart to invoke Ms. Chase into this discussion to make her strong  point! It was a well timed blind side that gave her a ton of clever leverage to back her case.
Note in the video that Ms. Oswald makes a point of fairness and consistency, indicating that when Ms. Chase was up for reappointment to the ZBA she WAS re-interviewed for the position she held on the ZBA when she was up for reappointment, when  the appointment of Faulknham, Docteur, and Bourcy were going to be voted on now with no interview or even an announcement that these positions were open for appointment.  Other appointments have also been handled in this manner by the Hirschey board as well.
Good point Michelle…but the whole issue of WHY was avoided because to dig into it exposes some uncomfortable truths. 

So why did this happen to Hester Chase?  Why was she forced to interview for her reappointment when some other Hirschey loyalists aren’t???
To put it bluntly, in my opinion… it really comes down to whether you are a Hirschey loyalist and willing to keep your mouth shut or not, and not ask the tough questions on critical issues that actually promotes the open and transparent govt the Hirschey crowd is so quick to point to.
In the summer and fall of 2013 many of our town officers were up to their eyeballs in a solar zoning fiasco that got out of control, even involved the town supervisor Mr. Hirschey and his own illegal solar project, as well as another solar project belonging to Roger Alexander of Lazy Acres Trailer Park. 
I uncovered this mess and it even reached the front page of the Watertown Daily Times and became a huge embarrassment to the town and it’s zoning process and officials and their brand new zoning law. And that would be after I had repeatedly told them they were likely to screw up the solar zoning in the draft law because I felt they had not researched it carefully.  They were simply in love with solar.
 The crux of the matter was that the town officials who had created the law failed miserably in understanding and applying the zoning they had written and passed only a year before.  A law that was the shining center point of their very election!
If you would like to see this in detail and documentation why Mr. Faulknham and some others of the Hirschey zoning establishment should NOT be reappointed, go back on this blog archive to about July – Oct. 2013 and read the issues I uncovered involving the illegal solar project of Mr. Alexander, and his neighbor Mary Grogan who was protesting the illegal project, and how Mr. Hirschey the CV town supervisor was also directly caught up in it. All the documentation is there.
The CV Planning Board, particularly Mr. Brown and Mr. Macsherry, and Faulknham and most of his ZBA failed miserably in my opinion to conduct proper zoning practices, and when caught in the zoning fiasco they and other town officers did nothing more than damage control trying to sanitize the mess they created.  Of course a lot is at stake when the town supervisor has unwittingly put up his own prohibited solar project.  One he on his own temporarily took down till the zning could be re written to allow such projects like his and others.  Geee Imagine that!
For example when Mrs. Mary  Grogan wanted to challenge this process and the illegal project proposed next to her property by Mr. Alexander, ZBA chair Faulknham could not clearly delineate how she should bring an appeal before his board (probably a stall), AND indicated the permits were legal and she probably couldn’t win the appeal anyhow.  What about fairness and impartiality did Mr. Faulknham not understand?  How did he KNOW the permits were legal and she couldn’t win BEFORE he and his board had even heard Mrs. Grogan’s appeal????  It was a sham! Faulkham could even find the proper paperwork for Mrs. Grogan to start her appeal and it was finally sent to her by Hirschey only a few days before the deadline for her appeal.  Maybe they were hoping Mrs. Grogan would go over the official deadline and the whole mess would just go away.
Because behind the scenes many town officers had in my opinion improperly conferred trying to clean up the huge zoning mess they had created (including their town supervisor) well before Mrs. Grogan’s case was even heard.
So how does Hester Chase figure into this and the points Councilwoman Oswald made about her and appointments and reappointments??? 
It is quite simple.
Do you keep your mouth shut, or try to run responsible open and fair  govt?  Chase opted for good govt and it almost cost her  her ZBA position and Councilwoman Oswald knows it!
 During the solar zoning fiasco that swept across the town zoning establishment Ms. Chase started asking some uncomfortable questions.  Not only about this mess and how it occurred but about how certain records of the planning board and ZBA were being handled and who should have access to them and how. 
Some of this put her head to head with the ZBA chairman Mr. Faulknham and PB member Robert Brown and Dick Macsherry.
During the Mrs. Grogan’s ZBA appeal on the solar project, Hester voted against the permits and approval of this illegal project indicating that the permits and the process had become such a mess she could not vote in favor of it.  And she was the only one in all of CV town govt to officially questioned what was going on and supported Mrs. Grogan’s appeal.
It is important to note here that ZBA chairman Faulknham and a couple of his ZBA officers even admitted this zoning mess was not carried out correctly and probably would not hold up in court…but approved the permits anyhow!!!!! Pure genius!!
Do we really want to reappoint people who admit a process would probably not hold up in court but approve the process  and put the town in legal liability anyhow? Really???
And keep in mind that Ms. Chase who was willing to stand by the law and the proper process, in my opinion was later hassled and intimidated when her reappointment came up.  A point to which I think Ms. Oswald is eluding to.
So when Hester Chase’s reappointment came up, you can damn well bet they were going to give her grief.  Thus as Oswald points out…she was re-interviewed to hold her ZBA position AND there were a number of town officials who probably did not want to see her reappointed perceiving a lapse in “loyalty”.
Interview some people, don't interview others???  That system is flawed, and full of potential abuses.
That is the backstory Councilwoman Oswald was not revealing at last Thurs. CV town board meeting, but I am willing to get into, and everyone should know before these appointments are considered.
Of course I’m sure the fact that Ms. Chase was a woman who had strong opinions and would stand by them and against the boys club…that was working against her at that time.  Fortunately she was ultimately reappointed.
In my opinion Oswald is correct on the appointment process to keep it open and transparent and open it to all and interview all. 
It is also my opinion that based on behavior during the town’s embarrassing solar zoning fiasco that these men created, that Faulknham should not be reappointed, nor should Brown or Macsherry of the PB when their terms are up.  Their behavior was inexcusable, as was the legally questionable solution they and other town officers came up with to sanitize the mess. 
These men and others involved in this zoning mess at a minimum should be grilled and questioned thoroughly before they are given any sacred responsibility to be stewards of the town’s land use.
As for Mrs. Bourcy, in my opinion she does not even deserve the PB alternate position after her questionable votes with her wind conflicts of interest on the old Edsall planning board.  Votes that significantly moved along the wind agenda and created legal and social havoc for this community and even became the subject of a NYAG investigation.  Why Hirschey and his previous board reappointed her is beyond logic for me.
Even Mr. Paul Docteur of the PB should be questioned as to why he sat quietly as this solar zoning mess unfolded before him.
These appointments all have major baggage attached to them and should be scrutinized very carefully, not just given a pass as Councilman Bragdon implies simply because they hold the job now. That is reckless.
And note on the video when Councilwoman. Oswald raised this question of simple reappointment and invoked Hester Chase’s name that Mr. Hirschey the supervisor seemed to become a bit flustered about the vote and issue losing track of what was going on. 
He in fact after initially favoring the lopsided  appointment process because that is how they have done it, then changed his position to agree with Oswald as did Byrne.  I’m guessing that when the Hester Chase issue was brought into the argument, Hirschey probably didn’t want to explore that issue much further and where it might lead.
And as an interesting side note, as long as we are talking about the judgment  of people we are about to appoint to important town zoning positions…then take a closer look, because the fiasco continues.
During the original solar zoning fiasco involving Mr. Alexander’s illegal solar project, one of the KEY justifications of zoning officials and I suppose the town lawyer as well for allowing the permits, was that Alexander was heavily vested in the project, and some of them had supposedly visited the project claiming Alexander had a significant investment in equipment so the permits should be approved so he could move forward ASAP.  This was a pressing issue and a big deal in the justification. 
 I said it was a lot of nonsense, and the courts have overridden that justification in some case law as well.
Problem is Alexander took the town for a real embarrassing ride on this one too.
 As of last summer and after this entire zoning  fiasco on his behalf he had done virtually NOTHING of consequence on his solar project!!!  And in fact Alexander applied last summer to extend his permits once again and was finally refused.  When I left in mid November it appeared still nothing had been done on the project.
Ooooppps!!! 
I would like Mr. Faulknham, Mr. Brown, and Mr. Macsherry to explain that one away before they get reappointed!
I guess Alexander was not as vested in his pressing project as the town claimed he was.  That was a shaky zoning scam in my opinion to justify a real embarrassing zoning mess…to which Alexander took these zoning officials and the town for a real ride!!! 
Actually it is the second time Alexander has taken the town for a real zoning ride.  You will note he has a private wind turbine that has never worked and has sat there inoperative since 2009.  Something else the Hirschey zoning establishment has refused to deal with.
That is one of the reasons Mrs. Grogan as a neighbor was protesting the new illegal solar project on the same property as the defunct wind turbine.  Yet our CV zoning officials have just turned their heads on the entire zoning disaster.
Once again...time to start asking some tough questions.

 

18 comments:

  1. Whatever the thinking or backstory, this concept of posting an open position is SO simple. The fact that it lead to a 20 minute discussion is almost funny - if it wasn't so scary. Byrne's suggested solution was ridiculous. Bragdon asking Hirschey how he voted was even worse. This board looked ridiculous - not because of Oswald' s objection to the resolution - but because the fact they ignored how positions were filled in the past.

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  2. I agree...the board looked pretty silly, Hirschey got so flustered he couldn't even keep track of what was going on. Good thing Byrne was sitting next to him to keep him on track.

    Then as you mention Bragdon asks Hirschey what he wants telling him he is the supervisor and usually defers to him. Yet in the end he votes opposite to Hirschey with a nay. Hirschey was all over the place until Hester's situation was mentioned, then he probably figured he better opt for fairness or if the issue was pursued further he would look ridiculous.

    Bragdon's reaction however I think is classic and pathetic of how the Hirschey govt operates. Urban gets what Urban wants and if you don't comply you are in trouble or will get marginalized. I'm actually surprised Bragdon would make that comment and publicly reveal that reality.

    I remember once asking Byrne in a private meeting to weigh with an opinion or answer on a complicated legal issue. He was sitting next to Hirschey in the meeting and Byrne said he "would have to consult with his fellow board members because they work as a "team".

    The translation to that is that he would have to ask permission from Urban before he could decide anything!

    And did you notice that all the time Byrne was running for NY Assembly against Russell I don't recall Hirschey coming out with a public endorsement of Byrne. Maybe I missed it.

    Considering Byrne lost by a very thin margin, maybe it would have helped if Hirschey with his political clout county wide and beyond would have gotten publicly behind Byrne since Byrne has been very faithful to Hirschey which I know for FACT!

    Wonder why Hirschey didn't get behind his Republican "team mate"? Might have swung the few votes Byrne needed to win!!

    Think on that for a minute.

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  3. Perhaps I am naive but the town board is there to represent the citizens - not work as a team - blindly following the leader. A very select few Hirschey lemmings are blaming Oswald for this fiasco. They need to blame someone rather than face the fact that this board is not much different than the one they replaced.

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  4. Yeah that sounds about right. I'm sure I could pick who those lemmings are. In many ways you are right. The Hirschey govt isn't much different than the old govt in many respects.

    The blame game is the same old group think follow the script BS!

    Maybe as time goes on people will better understand why I left WPEG and distanced myself from Hirschey and WPEG. The group think was bad and became worse over time. Then Hirschey surrounded himself with appointments with some people who are real pieces of work!

    Some people erroneously interpreted this and still do as me wanting to help the Democrats and BP etc.

    Actually I didn't think the Hirschey group think crowd was tough enough on the wind issue.

    Talk about blame game...I know how that works first hand with that bunch. The last straw for me was summer of 2013 solar zoning fiasco and how badly they screwed up.

    That was bad enough...but the lengths they went to almost entirely across town govt to cover their asses instead of fess up and do the right thing was pathetic and scary.

    In my opinion, they twisted and distorted the law and regulations for their solar agenda and to cover their rear ends and incompetence just as the previous govt did on behalf of the their wind agenda.

    And if you had carefully researched the issue and their BS solution and excuses, and how legally questionable it was the public would know just how much this bunch is like the previous govt was.

    This group has just managed to convince the community and cloak themselves in social respectability and claims of open fair govt.

    And Wiley at JLL was just as willing to perpetuate that nonsense for them. On many things that involve the CV govt, especially in the past on how this govt handled the wind issue, he is just plain scary with his propaganda.

    Fortunately he now has decided to limit himself to his travels and little town events where his reporting is harmless.

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  5. Apparently anytime Hirschey is questioned or asked for further information, the questioning person becomes the villain. I am ashamed to say I have been a huge Hirschey supporter because I believed in the "open and transparent government" he professed to believe in. Watching the actions of this board is, at the very least, disappointing. They zero in on people rather than people. Very sad!

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  6. Art, your, and your commenters opinions are interesting, but I don't think they are really relevant to the issue. New York State Law, code section #271 grants towns the authority to establish Planning Boards and ZBAs. They are required to appoint members of each by resolution, for specific terms. The State Law does not specify the procedure for how to select the potential appointees, nor whether it is mandatory to advertise for a position if a standing member wishes to continue service when his term has expired. I'm not aware of a policy standard in Cape Vincent, but generally if my memory serves correctly, if there is a vacancy the board advertises for interested parties, and conducts interviews. Ultimately it is the board who approves a candidate, so if ,as in this case there is no real vacancy, but merely just an ending of terms, and the board is satisfied with the incumbents ,what is the necessity for advertising and soliciting new candidates? If Mrs. Oswald was interested in a position or knew someone else who was interested, she should have said that ,in which case then it would only be fair for the board to advertise for the position.

    If the board acted wrong in any way ,it was that they buckled to the charge that they weren't being fair, when in actuality they were conducting business as required.

    I don't think the previous case with Hester Chase is relevant because as I recall there were several candidates who professed an interest in the seat , which would necessitate interviewing.

    I can't speak to the politics involved in either of these incidents, but as far as procedure goes, I think in the recent one the board should have just acted on their resolution.

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  7. Dave...that is all well in good but at the end of the day I think Hester was treated unfairly, and I think it was a case that she dared t ask questions and stepped outside the script. and also at the end of the day based on what we saw in the Mary Grogan case I don't think anyone involved in that mess should be allowed to continue in a zoning position. What they did was inexcusable, and maybe even illegal. So it goes beyond the simple issue of how the board was handling appointments.

    If we had observed this behavior back in the wind issue days by the previous govt we would have been livid!

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  8. 4:52... Yup you hit the nail on the head. It saddens me too, and that is why I opened this blog a few years back to bring a different perspective to the CV wind issue. When I wouldn't fall in line with the Hirschey WPEG script both the other blogs eliminated my comments and then the community was being spoon fed one version of reality.

    Of course when they couldn't shut me up, then the attack was that I was really secretly helping BP, the Democrats and the wind agenda. More spoon fed marginalization for the mindless to believe.

    And there are some things I know that if you knew would make you cringe when they spout off about open and transparent govt.

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  9. Mr. LaMora, If one does not know there's a term about to expire, how can one express interest? Hester Chase is not the only one who had to interview for her own position - Rockne Burns did also. Again, consistency is key. If there isn't a Town policy in place, there should be....just so they cannot continue to pick and choose their policy depending on the person involved.

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  10. 9:33 After reviewing the video, it's very clear to me that this Board was reluctant to vote on this motion until Harold Wiley stood up. Even he could see what they were trying to do was inconsistent with previous appointments. Hirschey immediately changed his tune.

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  11. anon.7:03, Art, this is only my opinion, but I don't believe Mrs. Oswald is "right on the Money" with her charge. The board is not responsible to do what she is asking, that is to solicit potential candidates every time a term expires. This is merely an incumbrance that is unnecessary, and does not serve to provide the fairness she is demanding.
    Again, if there is a vacancy, or if some other party has expressed an interest in an expired term, which is what happened in the Chase/Burns instance, to my knowledge the board always advertises the position and conducts interviews, which is fair. To answer the question of how does someone know if a term is expiring, if they are truly interested in serving they should know that already. It is public knowledge. We're talking about appointed positions that are the responsibility of the board, not the general public, and we're talking about the procedure, not the persons involved. Mrs. Oswald has muddled the process by claiming it is not fair. Anyone has the right to express an interest in a position and demand an interview. I haven't heard anyone claim they've been denied that right. The board is not required to solicit candidates just to satisfy an individuals belief that some person might be interested and just didn't know it was available. Citizenship requires some effort by all interested parties.

    Art, I don't question your right to be dissatisfied with the choices the board makes, or the actions those chosen members take, but they have the right, and authority to choose who they deem fit, or qualified. There are always politics involved, that's just a reality ..

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  12. Mrs. Oswald did not muddle the process....she commented on a muddled process. Again consistency is key.

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  13. Chase does not like Faulkenham. She and Oswald got together to get final licks. They could give crap about process. Chase got in trouble for bad procedure that were legal concerns about taking records out of the office. She had to be re-interviewed to be sure she understood proper conduct on legal matters. First Rockney said he did not want a re-do on his position. Then they advertised and he decided to jump back in. You think you are so smart Art but you don't know it all except what Chase feeds you and she does not get it.

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  14. 5:16

    Think again my friend! "What Chase feeds me..." I don't think so!

    I have a folder full of research on just how bad some of these zoning officers have screwed up, particularly on the solar zoning fiasco of summer and fall 2013.

    Geee I don't know...do you think it might be important to understand and apply the very zoning law THEY WROTE and spent thousands of $$$$$ on an attorney so they were supposed to get it right? THEY didn't get it...and it is in record and on video.

    Instead they f+&*ed up the process so bad even the supervisor who promoted the law had to take down his illegal solar project they approved.

    Then when there was an appeal on another screwed up solar project Faulknham couldn't even tell the person bringing the appeal how the process worked and he and the town couldn't even find the right form to send the person wanting to appeal. As I remember it took nearly 3 weeks to get the right form.

    Not to mention that the planning board was handling one of the solar projects and that wasn't even the right board to go to for approval. It was the ZBA where you had to get a special use permit. Look it up, it's right in our zoning law.

    Not to mention that this screw up made the front page of the WDT.

    You are badly misinformed. Ms. Chase didn't have to feed me anything. Any Jr. High kid who could read could figured out how badly these guys, including Faulknham screwed up. Besides ya don't need Ms. Chase or anyone else. It s all in town record and was recorded on video. Or at least it was!

    Yeah I'm sure these guys are real sensitive about records, mainly because there zoning fiasco IS ON THE RECORD and WAS ON VIDEO!!!

    And let me remind you once again...THEY WROTE THE DAMN LAW THAT THEY SCREWED UP SO BADLY!!!

    Oh and one last think. Long prior to Ms. Chase's involvement in this matter I told these guys they were probably going to screw up the solar portion of the law because the were just in love with solar and didn't have a clue what they were doing. I also told them they were rushing their new draft law and it was not a good idea to do the comp plan at the same time. It should have been done first.

    And as predicted they screwed it up anyhow. BIG TIME!

    And isn't it interesting that AFTER the big solar zoning screw up, if you look in the meeting minutes they were all encouraged to attend a solar zoning work shop!!!

    Yeah no shit!!! I think that horse already left the barn a long time ago, and the current revised solar zoning is still a mess.

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  15. 5:16 is dead on about your two pals, Artie...
    As for your zoning nonsense, you are living in the past.
    Get up to speed Artie. And like others said, Urban, John and Brooks will be gone soon and thanks for that and all the help.

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  16. Really!!!???? Rather than try to understand the importance of following proper procedure, you just blame Chase and Oswald for everything.

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  17. 5:16. So Rockney didn't want the position back until it was advertised and someone else applied???? Huh??? And were you in the interview with Chase? My impression at the time was that it was Falkenham not "liking" Chase because she insisted on open, transparent, proper procedure .

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  18. 5:16 and others, please see my next post. I will expand there on 5:16's point.

    Art Pundt

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